Lord Shu interviews Tabatha Vail about her business and life. She talks about her foundation Heartbeat of the City and how she lost her son to gun violence. She has a cleaning business called T & J cleaning that personifies her strategy. Lord Shu is highlight women owned businesses on After5ive Da Podcast.

T & J Cleaning website: https://www.tandjcleaning.com

Heartbeat of the city Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Heart-Beat-Of-The-City-LLC/100047033840715/

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